Reference News: I dont know if you have recently paid attention to our Reference News. This morning we published a news in the Reference News newspaper: the continental frequent military exercise warning Taiwan independence means strong. I wonder if you have any views on this matter. Zhang Zhaozhong: first of all, I started looking at the reference news from the age of more than 10. Ive been looking at the present, and still watching the paper edition. This is the longest newspaper Ive seen in my life. Recently, in view of Taiwan independence, we have a parade of 48 naval vessels in the South China Sea to demonstrate the strength of our navy. The navy is a very important force in solving the Taiwan issue. Another is the live ammunition drill, the 18 live ammunition exercise, the April 12th South China sea parade, and the next 19 air force around the island cruising. In the South China Sea, 48 warships surged in the South China Sea in April 12th. This series of activities is a warning of two aspects: one is a warning of Taiwan independence and not a military refusal; another warning to those who are idle is to support the Taiwan independence and to provoke the independent foreign forces in Taiwan behind them. So I feel very good, so that some activities should be done in the future, so that Taiwan can see our strength. In fact, some of Taiwans independent and some people do not see our strength, they say that Chinas Liaoning ship is a model, Chinas J -20 is a model, and now China can not afford to eat tea eggs. We should use our own actions to show our determination and will to show our strength. Zhang Zhaozhong: how many times have we made the formation of the Navy formation? The Liaoning ship has sailed in Taiwan and has sailed across the Taiwan Straits. This time, after the end of the South China sea parade, the Liaoning ship went backward, from the bus channel to the Western Pacific military exercise. And then returned from the palace valley near the island. Its all equal to the winder. Taiwan is not too far away from the mainland, so to solve the Taiwan issue, all our armed forces can play a role. Only a few hundred kilometers, the armys long-range rocket can be hit, so it can play a role. Liaoning ship Reference: for Trumps practice, there is a view that this just reflects that as long as the price is appropriate, Trump will make a sacrifice to make a deal in Taiwan and may become a good opportunity for China to reunification. What do you think of this point of view? What else do you think of Wu Tong? Zhang Zhaozhong: now theres a problem. Now its Trump who is in that place. For example, there is a report that the American presidents national security assistant Bolton is going to visit Taiwan in June. Trump signed the Taiwan travel act, and some members of the cabinet visited Taiwan, and now they sell nuclear submarines to it. Now it seems that the United States is picking things up in that place. We are doing military exercises here. Many people have said, now that the Taiwan problem is coming, there is only one way to go. Personally, I think we have fought a lot in the civil war. In my mind, I do not want to fight. I do not want to use force to fight a war against Taiwan. Peace can be achieved peacefully, otherwise it can be solved in other ways. Since force is the last resort, it is useless to resort to force. On the 17 day, the Taiwan army carried out live firing exercises at the shooting range of the golden gate. (Taiwan TVBS TV station website) But let Taiwan independence know how powerful our forces are and not exaggerate the issue of force. You see, on the one hand, we need to show our strength when we want to exercise. But at the same time, we still have 31 Xiang Huimin policies, which are good policies for the people of Taiwan. Why do we have to use all the other ways, economic aspects, folk exchanges, economic and trade, cooperation in science and technology and so on. We should try to do it in various ways. We are not about the people of Taiwan, but for the Taiwan independence, so this must be clear. If we really violate some of the bottom line defined in the anti secession law, we should use force against force. Reference News: one is the new aircraft carrier you think we are developing now. When it is in service, will it be rehearsed with the Liaoning ship to form a double carrier battle group? Zhang Zhaozhong: This is still early. It will take at least five years to achieve this goal. Today I saw the news that the aircraft carrier is about to start the sea trial. It is difficult for ordinary people to know what it is like during the sea trial. There may be one hundred percent success, there may be some minor problems that need to be modified or repaired. After the sea trial is to serve, after fighting to form combat effectiveness, fighting capacity will take several years. Not only China, but also foreign countries, so it will take several years. The two carrier battle groups can fight together, at least the fastest three or four years. Reference News: how many aircraft carriers do you think the Chinese Navy should have in order to meet the operational needs of the blue water navy? Zhang Zhaozhong: now, the basic algorithm is three times. You plan to have a man standing guard in this place. You have at least three people. Three shifts, we often talk about three shifts. There is a sentry keeping twenty-four hours a day in this place, at least three people. Some eat, sleep, rest, he has to do this. The same is true for aircraft carriers. We need to ensure that there are two aircraft carriers, to fight at sea, and to keep two ships. You need to have at least six ships, which is the least. In this case, there are at least six. This article source: Reference News Net editor: Han Jiapeng _NN9841 Reference News: how many aircraft carriers do you think the Chinese Navy should have in order to meet the operational needs of the blue water navy? Zhang Zhaozhong: now, the basic algorithm is three times. You plan to have a man standing guard in this place. You have at least three people. Three shifts, we often talk about three shifts. There is a sentry keeping twenty-four hours a day in this place, at least three people. Some eat, sleep, rest, he has to do this. The same is true for aircraft carriers. We need to ensure that there are two aircraft carriers, to fight at sea, and to keep two ships. You need to have at least six ships, which is the least. In this case, there are at least six.