The event aroused public concern about China core. Liang Ning, a former Chinese Academy of Engineering academician Ni Guangnan, published an article a section about domestic chips and operating systems, recalling the history of developing chips and operating systems with Ni Guangnan and others, and spread widely in the circle of friends. Ni Guangnan, the 79 year old authority in the field of chips and operating systems, is once again the focus. Recently, he received an interview with ID:xjbmaker. Ni Guangnan and China core, the operating system has two origins. In 1983, Ni Guangnan gave up his choice to return to the Canadian National Institute (NRC). China is facing the dilemma of developing fourth generation computers for the lack of large scale integrated circuit chips. Ni Guangnan, who worked abroad to broaden his horizons, returned home under such a background. He longed to be Chinas own chip and operating system. Independence of the desktop operating system of the main government department Many people believe that the monopoly of Windows and Intel can not be broken, and they can only accept the existing rules of the game. Even chip developers feel that the day of chip self control is still unpredictable. Some even laugh at Ni Guangnans desire to use the whole nation system to compete with the global ecosystem. The autonomous control of the operating system he advocates is, in fact, in the government and large enterprises, especially the departments concerned with national security, and the implementation of the desktop operating system in the office scene. In his view, it is entirely possible for the government to realize the autonomy of the desktop operating system. And, after more than ten years of development, technology is no longer the main problem, the main problem is, in use, to enrich the ecology, step by step from the government to the enterprise, and finally into a wider field. Wujiang newspaper reporter Be vigilant about safety risks when the wind and the sun are beautiful However, it is not easy to replace monopoly. As the first Chinese Academy of engineering, Ni Guangnan seemed to him that it was unshirkable to carry out the operating system autonomously, as if everyone had to do his job well. As a scientist, he urged people to be vigilant against the safety risks that have not yet erupted, and prepare for rainy days, even in sunny days. China is a big internet country with the largest user and market in the world. Nearly 1/5 of Apples revenue comes from China. Without such a big event such as the banned chip, the whole IT industry can still be proud to be the largest application market. But from the monopoly of Wintel in the era of PC to the emergence of Android and apple iOS in mobile terminals, China missed the great opportunity of the mobile terminal operation system. Ni Guangnan believes that the chip ban is not only confined to the supply chain and core technologies, but the potential risk lies in network security. The network information security expert at North University of technology, an expert on network information security, has written a detailed description of the hidden dangers. It is possible to implant hardware Trojan horses technically, that is, using chip design and production to change the logic of the chip, thus achieving the aim of the attack. If there is a hardware Trojan horse, once the Trojan horse is triggered, its destructiveness will be huge, which will lead to data loss, function failure and even system paralysis. The hardware trojan is not alarmist. Early in the early 2018, network security researchers found two security vulnerabilities in Intel, AMD and ARM architecture chips Meltdown and Spectre. These vulnerabilities have varying degrees of impact on notebook computers, desktop computers, smartphones, tablet computers and servers, allowing hackers to steal and embezzled sensitive data. In the most popular words, even if the chip has been installed to computers all over the world, it can still control the terminal of the chip by remote control. This is also approved by Cao Dong, Secretary General of Chinas intelligent terminal operating system industry alliance. Its like your home is there. I have your family key. I just want to go. Its my business to go or not. Remote control, Cao Dong said. you lose your cell phone and you lose your information. You dont know. Through the back door of the chip, you can get user information. In fact, it is easy to design some mechanisms to work on the chip. The picture comes from the network Dialogue with Ni Guangnan The chip ban has been a big education, more useful than we say it one hundred times. Ni Guangnan was on his way to Wudaokou, a rare leisure time of his day. Now he is 79 years old, and after experiencing twists and turns in Lenovo and the ark, he has never actually joined any company. In 2013, Ni Guangnan initiated the establishment of the China intelligent terminal operation system industry alliance, aiming at promoting the domestic operating system. Talk about chip self research Lack of money, borrowing from other peoples laboratories Looking for a Chinese Creator: your assistant Liang Ning wrote a passage about domestic chip and operating system, which is widely spread on the Internet. Now remember, what was the experience of the association? Ni Guangnan: we continue to feel the importance of chips. In 1980s, China was lagging behind the fourth generation of ultra large scale integrated circuits. The early production of large computers included the United States, the former Soviet Union, the United Kingdom, France, and Chinas fifth. The third generation of computer integrated circuits are mainly monolithic, small and medium-sized, all still domestic, but to the fourth generation of super large scale computer, we found that there is no large scale integrated circuit, the computer can not do it. In the 80s of last century, we have some achievements, such as the Hanzi Laser Phototypesetting, including the associative Hanka, which are an extended function of the computer, not the main body of the computer. At that time, I thought China had to make chips for computers. How to make integrated circuits? Small businesses do not have so much investment. At that time, there was a 909 project (editors note: December 1995, the largest national project in Chinas electronics industry, the 909 project, which was determined by the construction of a large scale integrated circuit production line of 8 inches, 0.5 micron technology and 20 thousand monthly processing. The 909 project is the abbreviation of the key project of developing microelectronics industry in China. Its main body is Shanghai Huahong group. Investment 10 billion), but in fact, the investment in developed countries is still very small, and some investment is still invested by enterprises. Ni Guangnan: at that time, Lenovo felt that the design of integrated circuits could be done and the design input was not large. The design of the chip requires EDA software and some testing equipment, and is also expensive, because we have a good relationship with some customers, and we use other peoples tools to design a design laboratory in someone elses home. In order to save cost, about half a year or so, the Institute of computing, researcher Sun Zuxi, took young people to the Design Laboratory of CHARTER company in Singapore to do a film, so that the chips of Hanka were made with very little money. Design companies are easier to start. Later, there were hundreds of design companies in China. At present, the chip design of our country is not much behind that of foreign countries. Before I left Lenovo, we developed a total of 5 ASIC (ASIC), which was successfully used in Hanka, Chinese character printers and microcomputers. Try to get started from the idea of integrated circuit design. Many enterprises have got up in design. The design is mainly based on human intelligence, plus some tools. Chinas development of the design industry is good at present, roughly the same as that in the world. Chinas first self-developed gigabit network controller is visually based on Chinas scientific and technological achievements appraisal chart. Talk about being used by people Its like a wind and rain, you meet, you cant hide Looking for Chinese customers: Liang Ning said that you still need to be self controlled when you risk being exploited again and again. Ni Guangnan: what you encounter is not what you want or what you want. Its like a windy and rainy day. Li Delei (founder of the ark Technology) did not make high technology and fry property, which was unpredictable at first. When the rule of law was imperfect and intellectual property rights had no equity, there was no right to speak. The intellectual property rights of the companys scientific and technological personnel now have equity and are constantly improving. Ni Guangnan: Wintel has monopolized the desktop operating system. It is difficult to make a domestic replacement in the general field, but it is easier for the national government level office desktop to replace the information security. The mobile terminal has no ideal domestic operating system. At that time, Apple launched the iOS smartphone in 2007, and the Android cell phone was pushed out about 2009. If China came out of the apple cell phone, it immediately organized a mobile operating system, not necessarily incapable of being monopolized by the operating system of Android and apple. Looking for Chinese tourists: what are the lessons learned in this process? Ni Guangnan: now, the State supports tens of millions of yuan for the operation system project, even if it is large, and often sprinkled with pepper noodles, which does not accord with the development law of the operating system. How many operating systems in the world can China have? Operating systems are highly monopolized, either unsupported or only supported by one or two, and the style of pepper surface support does not conform to the rules of the operating system. Looking for Chinese customers: as you mentioned before, the replacement of the localization of the operating system will have a remarkable achievement in 2020. Is it possible to achieve it now? Ni Guangnan: it is not impossible to achieve this goal in the field of government. In general, there is a lot of ecological support. At present, many provinces and places are dispersing chips. Chips need a lot of input, and fighting for themselves may lead to decentralized and repetitive investment. We hope that the national fund will take the lead, and private capital participation, including enterprises, will work together, but we must consider the industrial layout independently and controllable. Integrated circuit manufacturing should be top-level design at the national level, and it can not blossom everywhere, otherwise it will be dispersed and duplicated. Graphic Vision China On the system of the whole nation Only the government has no business and a problem Looking for Chinese customers: can the operation system except the state power, enterprises do it? Ni Guangnan: there is still hope for Chinese enterprises as a whole. HUAWEI has 80 thousand R & D personnel, and BAT and so on are also strengthening intellectual property reserves and increasing R & D investment. But in a single view, the industry does not have enough companies to compare with Microsoft, Intel, Oracle and apple. The government needs to play a role when the enterprise is relatively weak, and the Chinese national system is well done to do things with Chinas resources and capabilities. The government is not a leader, but a help or a joint venture. It may get twice the result with half the effort. Looking for Chinese tourists: some people feel that under the great law of the globalized market, the whole nation system is no longer applicable. Looking for Chinese customers: do you think BAT will be able to achieve independent control of chips? Ni Guangnan: enterprises are the main body of innovation, and chips and CPU depend on enterprises. I believe that many competent enterprises in China now have enough money to make contributions in the field of basic technology. Artificial intelligence chips, perhaps BAT will do very well. Looking for a Chinese Creator: some people say you have some Donquixote in your self-control. What do you think? Ni Guangnan: before you do anything, you may be treated as Donquixote. Success requires a long process, and quick results and quick gains do not necessarily lead to good results. In addition, I do not have to succeed, I do a paragraph, people go on, not necessarily care about the results of their own, to have the heart, take off some, do not weigh their gains and losses. Judging from the overall situation, an enterprise can not go out, and more enterprises will come out. Relying on the development of the industrial sector is certain. Source: Beijing News Editor: Bai Xin _NT4464 Ni Guangnan: enterprises are the main body of innovation, and chips and CPU depend on enterprises. I believe that many competent enterprises in China now have enough money to make contributions in the field of basic technology. Artificial intelligence chips, perhaps BAT will do very well. Looking for Chinese customers: some people evaluate your persistence in self control. What do you think of Donquixote? Ni Guangnan: before you do anything, you may be regarded as Donquixote. Success requires a long process, and quick results and quick gains do not necessarily lead to good results. In addition, I do not have to succeed, I do a paragraph, people go on, not necessarily care about the results of their own, to have the heart, take off some, do not weigh their gains and losses. Judging from the overall situation, an enterprise can not go out, and more enterprises will come out. Relying on the development of the industrial sector is certain.